Map of Kurdsu, Kurdsán

Kurdsu lies in the Near- and Middle East. This is approx. the circumference of current regions, remained from ancient Kurdsu, where nowadays different Kurdish peoples live and we call it Kurdsu or Kurdsán, the farsized Kurdistan. The Map of a country and the National Identity are “historical geographic-cultural integral, distinction in a specific ‎linguistic feature” grounded in historical evidences, which are accurate with the present Kurdish country map.kurdsu

Within this circumference never existed a Persian community settlement. The Arabs and Turks communities in this territory among the Kurds are arabized-, turkized-Kurds and partly from Arabs and Turkish origin settled after the Islam up to now in several occasions. Outside this circumference, the current regions Shiraz, Kerman, Isfahan and Araq-Ajam (Arak-Sultanabad) are occupied by the Persians probably and their Kurdish native peoples gradually transformed into Persians afterwards Islam.

The name present Badar Abbas (next to Mináw, Farsi: Minab, at south-eastern of the map) was Gombrun, which since its annexation to Safavia (Persia), had acquired the new name of Bunder Abbas, or Port of Abbas in the reign of Shah-Abbas in 1619 AD, (Arthur John Booth, London 1902: 30-33). Shah Abbas is a corrupt form of the origin Kurdish Šá Bás (Wás) name of the Safavi sovereign (1587-1628 AD).

The Arabs occupied current Syria, the ancient Šám/Šum, and Iraq after the Muslims conquered the Kurdish Šádánian realm (224-651 AD), the last Kurdish realm. Šádánian (Satanian) was the ethnic “Ezidian/Kákáian/Ahl-haqian” Empire, which in the course of the Aryanization, has been falsely introduced as the Sasanian, new Persian Empire. The Muslim’ war-reports point to the kurdsu-in-near-and-middle-eastfact that they have crossed over the Kurdish Flood River “Upŕhatu, Ufrahatu” from south-east of present Iraq. Before the Turks’ invasions Mongols Seljuq Dynasties AD 1055 – 1194 and IL-Khan Dynasty AD 1256 – 1336, the river Halys, in current Turkey the Kizilirmak River (Red River) was the boundary between the Kurds and the Greeks, (Herodotus History 1.72). north-kurdsanThis is a real image of North Kurdsu. From the page of Shwany Abdulsitar.

Present educational system and the modern scholars deny merciless the women’s roles in ancient world

On the occasion of international women’s day 2014

The institutes, museums and the generations of archaeologists, anthropologists, philosophers, etymologists, and historians have provided the world with wrong information in their reports on the culture, history of early ‎human civilizations and the root of the bible. For centuries, in their reports, they have tended to ignore women’s roles in ancient civilizations and to neglect their contributions. For instance:

From the earliest times in ancient Mesopotamia, women who came from a sector of society that could afford to have statues made placed their likenesses in temple shrines. This was done so that their images would stand in constant prayer while they continued to go about their daily chores.

The Mesopotamian woman’s role was strictly defined. She was the daughter of her father or the wife of her husband. Women rarely acted as individuals outside the context of their families. Those who did so were usually royalty or the wives of men who had power and status.” (Ancient Mesopotamia: The Role of Women, University of Chicago http://oi.uchicago.edu/OI/MUS/ED/TRC/MESO/women.html)

Although in according to the findings of researchers of the same university from excavations of 1935-1970 in Mesopotamia (read it Kurdsu): The fertility worship connected with a “mother goddess” (matriarchal legislation) must indeed be one of the oldest and longest surviving religions of the ancient world from around 32000 – 2000 BC, (Bérai 2013 p. 183).

In a cuneiform script assigned by F.W. König to 1300 BC, which I have corrected the decipherment, very clear stands:

(1) Legislature supreme matriarchal cardinal (female lawgiver) Keríŕiša (the root of the creation) founded the cardinal patriarchal-authority. (2) Legislature supreme cardinal Keríŕiša, ordered that cardinal patriarchy (father authority) may be placed lower beside me (Keríŕiša). (Bérai 2013 p. 302).

In pages 183 and 302 of my new book (yet not published):

Kurdsán’s Cultural Stratigraphy and Maternal Fertility Worship

Foremothers of the Kurds were the Creators of the Earliest Civilizations

The Stratigraphic, Linguistic, Historical and DNA Evidences

November 15, 2013, authored by Hamíit Qliji Bérai

I circulated, since then, testimonial requests to the experts in the field of ancient Near East, asked if anyone wants to read the new manuscripts and to say something about it.

The two manuscripts have been submitted to the appropriated publishers as well, for consideration. Manuscripts: (1) Kurdsán’s Cultural Stratigraphy and Maternal Fertility Worship, (2) Babel (Babylon) is Bible: Bible Discovered 2nd Edition http://www.elamirkan.net/?p=365

I expect that the scholars and journals will take their responsibility to review this revolutionary discovery and an appropriate publisher would be willing to publish and distribute it to the world.

 

A pseudo Ezidianism symbol, based on misunderstanding

From the explanation below, I understood that this “Malke Taus design” is not an authentic or traditional Ezdianism symbol. This is a pseudo symbol, based on misunderstanding and Mr. Lauffrey Nabo, a German-Kurdish lecturer, probably designed it in 1990.

I asked the following questions on November 09, 2012 by email and on Facebook.

peacock

Now, thanks to the explanations of Mr. Sufyán Šengáli, below, I understood that this “Malke Taus design” is not an authentic or traditional Ezdianism symbol. This is a pseudo symbol, based on misunderstanding and Mr. Lauffrey Nabo, a German-Kurdish lecturer, probably designed it in 1990.

maleke Tawoes false2

I said the design based on misunderstanding because the Double-cross sign symbolizes – dinker – means “Cardinal” and the Cross symbolizes – maš – means “mass, mission”. These are blessed Kurdish words. Therefore, cardinal is neither God, nor the Sumerian, Sumerian never existed, that are corruptions of the sacret Kurdish words.  

However, I have found the names of Kákaian and indication for Ezdian in the ancient Kurdish texts from the 3rd millennium BC. In the later texts appear the names of the Ezidians and Jews! The Cross symbols belongs to the matriarchalism from at least 7000 BC. Later these symbols are continuously used also taken over in patriarchalism concept and  religious symbols and they are taken over by the Kurdish Christians given to the later Romans Christianity, this is clear.

I said: Your “Káka” is still sold for a huge sum!

http://www.elamirkan.net/2012/11/06/your-kaka-is-still-sold-for-a-huge-sum/

 

Hamíit Qliji Bérai

 

Celebrate the Kurdish cultural heritage

Ephraim Súryaya, the Xedr Aliás 

Xedr Alias

Plate XI. Bible Discovered 2nd Edition

Icon of Ephraim the Súrian (Khudr Elias) Mariam Church, Diyárbaker
Abga was the first Christian king in history and Ura-federation was the first state to have a Christian king (probably 202 AD).
Súryaya (Súri-iai-ia “adjectival definite article”) is perfect in Kurdish, (sun-, fire-worshiper)”. Súryaya (Súri-iai-ia) indicates his background (his parents were considered as pagan), associated to the traditional sun-, fire-worship. Ephraim was born in about 306 at Nisibis or its neighborhood. Before he died, in 373, Ephraim asked to be buried among the graves of the destitute and criminals; but shortly afterwards his remains were moved, to the place of burial of the bishops of Edessa (Ura), under the name of Khudr Elias (Xedr Aliás). Ephraim, Ephrem or Efrêm seems to be a mutilated form of Abráím (Abraham). In Kurdish tales we know him as Xedr Alias and Xedr Zena (Immortal Xedr); apparently Abráím Súryaya was his designation name. It is usual to be buried under the real name. (See Bible Discovered 2nd Edition).

The clan Malek “Melkite, Malkian” and Hinmini language in Béra

Xedr Alias Xedr Zena (Xeder Alias)

Shrine of the dinker (cardinal) Xedr Aliás (Mar Ephraim ca. 306 – 373), also called Xedr Zena means “immortal Xedr”. The shrine is situated in Taxte Hinmini about 10 km southeastern of city of Béra in the Hinmini district where the clan Maĺek are situated. See Melkite, Malkian, Babel (Babylon) is Bible, Plate 29 Shrine of Xedr Aliás (Xedr Zena) in Taxte Hinmini, Béra.

There are some misunderstandings about Melkite (Malkian), the word Maĺk or Maĺek is adopted as an Arabic word for “king”, which appears to be a mistake, Maĺek does not mean king. It is true that Maĺek used as title instead of the word king. In the royal texts of the Kurdish Partian/Bardian Empire (ca. 250 BC – 224 AD) also Malek used as title before the kings names but as a title of Godlike, mighty, supremacy and owner. In Kurdish Maĺek regards divinity and we experience Maĺek also as spiritually, e.g. Maĺka Táwes “the peacock angel” however an angel. Also noticed by Brinkman (1968, 1320, pg.212) the Maliki as a divinity).

The name is more rooted in ancient than the supposed Arabic (pseudo Syriac, Semitic) Malek. We understand also from the quotation, Maĺka Dáwet (Bible) means “divinity David”, the worshiping of David up to know, is because of his divinity character. The translation of the biblical Malek Dawet to “King David” apparently is a mistake. In all traditional accounts from Šádánian, Jewish, Christians to Islam, David appears as a divinity character. For example familiar words like Maláeka “the angelics” and Malak “angel”; the so-called Syriac Malkut (Malakut) means “heavenly”, are well-known in Arabic. The similar name Maĺáíkat means “ghost” in Kurdish. Other related words are: Máĺ means “property, ownership, own, possession”; Málek means “owner, Lord of the Earth. Meĺk means “land”. God (Xo, Xod) is a Kurdish name, which means “(adjective) own, itself, owner”!‎

Also the speculations regard the Melkite (Malkite) members of various Byzantine Rite Christian churches of the early Christians of Antioch of the 1st century AD, like, – “the pure Syriac word is malkoyo (Arab. malakiyyu; vulgar, milkiyyu) and Melchites are the people of Syria, Palestine, and Egypt”, – cannot be true, since Malkoyo (Maĺkuyu) is clearly in Kurdish language and Malakiyyu occurs in a lot of Kurdish languages. Malkuyu and Malakiyyu are the same words, which mean “Malkians”. 

There are loosely clans in Kurdsán with the traditional hereditary title Malek (Malk) they were the members of Byzantine Rite Christian churches; descendants of the early Kurdish Christians authorities represented the Byzantine Christianity in Kurdsu until the Moslem conquest. They are converted to Islam, Qlij Besaĺmán (sword Moslems, this is an old Kurdish saying means, impressed by the sword), now common Moslems, but their title Malek stands yet as long ago. The clan Maĺek in Béra (Farsi, Arabic Badreh in Iran) which I personally know, speaks an own distinguished language Hinmini, a Kurdish language very close to Máco, Aurámi, Zázáki, Luuŕi etc. Those are languages that have been introduced as Aramaic – Syriac, Christian languages by the western scholars.

However this supports the fact that when you find people in China with the title Malk, they could be Chinese, in India are Indus and people with the title Malk in Kurdsu are Kurds, the title Malk is not confined to the Arabs people of Syria, Palestine and Egypt. Before Islam the people of Syria, Palestine were not Arabs. The Christianity was born in Kurdsu and the Christian language originates from the Kurdish language. The Malek (Melkite) is a divinity title. The present Arabic word Malek “king” is a loanword, borrowed from the Kurdish Malek.

The Kurdish languages still remain unknown to the scientific world. Babel (Babylon) is Bible: Bible Discovered second edition.

A network of Nazi professors and MIT the Turkish Secret Service

I remember, it was 1998, in a phone conversation with Martin van Bruinessen, he said:

“Kurds are liars; they lie, they told me that Abraham was a Kurd, but I could not find any evidence or indication for that; they add the title of Doctor to their names but cannot say when, where and from which university they are graduated.”

I had no reason yet to think he is a reproduced Nazi professor, but I was surprised of his generalization arguments and told him “because individuals or a group of the Kurds lying, you cannot mark the Kurds as liars. You are falling back on racist arguments, you are an anthropologist and you should use scientific principles”.

Immediately after that, I sent him a document with literary archaeological sources (published in Berai 2002, 2003, 2005 and Berai 2011), which indicate the fact that indeed Abraham was a Kurd and I asked for his reaction. He did not answer me. On the contrary they have behind the scenes managed to avoid my work is taken seriously. They still continue their manipulative practices and have been able to prevent the scientific world to correct the affected culture and history thrust upon society about the ancient Near East.

On October 23, 2011, I received a message says “I saw your good advert on amazon, I have circulated an email to Kurdish Studies Network about your book. You should contact Welat for your book details go to the network directly so that members can contact you. Email:  welatzedan@hotmail.com  for further info see: http://groups.google.com/group/kurdishstudiesnetwork?hl=en.”

After I joined, I saw comments following the circulation of the advert of my book within the Kurdish Studies Network, there were, in 15 minutes, quick reactions and personal attack of Professor Martin van Bruinessen and Professor Adriano V. Rossi, to my book, without reading it.

They did not expect me there. My response to the reactions of Martin van Bruinessen and Adriano Rossi, does not pass through the moderation, rejected by the moderation team of Kurdish Studies Network, my response (October 25, 2011) that – With the apportioning of Kurdsán to Iran, Turkey, Syria and Iraq, the western imperialism established a false educational system to discourage the Kurdish national identity, as contributing to the destruction and disappearing of Kurdish in the falsely reproduced nations and to assimilate Kurdish generations and convert them to Iranians, Turks, Syrians and Iraqis. Since then they educate Kurdish generations according to that political agenda in order to uproot the Kurds and Kurdish.

The contemporary program Middle Eastern Studies “Persian, Arabic, and Turkish Languages and Cultures” at the Western universities is an example, in order to adopt new generations and mislead the world public opinion. That is the reason that Martin and his collogues are interested in Kurdish.

Martin van Bruinessen is professor at the Utrecht University, Netherlands, department of the “Persian, Arabic, and Turkish Languages and Cultures”) and Adriano V. Rossi, Chair of Iranian Philology, Dept. of Asian Studies L’Orientale University, Naples Italy.

My discovery began with the Elam and Elamite inscriptions. But in the course of the research became obvious that all ancient Near Eastern texts, which are falsely named Elamite, Sumerian, Babylonian, Akkadian, Hittitian, Assyrian, Syriac, Hurrian, Persian etc., are scribed in Kurdish tribal languages.

The research has been constant hindered by opposition of a number of Dutch reproduced Nazi-professors and the patrons of the Nazi’ pseudo-scientific heritage, also by some Dutch government agencies, who are partly responsible for falsifying of historical documents and the identity of the Kurdish nation. Martin van Bruinessen is one of them; please see the Application in European Court of Human rights http://www.elamirkan.net/?p=415

See also – Patrons of the Nazi heritage prepare propaganda against the “Bible Discovered: Bible = Babel (Babylon)” They draw the youth into the struggle http://www.elamirkan.net/?p=519 -, that was my reaction to an article appeared in the October 18, 2011.

These pseudo professors, specialist in Kurdish studies, who have no understanding of the real Kurdish, have been produced according to the Nazis’Aryanization program and the present falsely adopted educational sources to practise the uprooting process of Kurds to transform them, unconsciously and gradually, to Turks, Arabs and Iranians. They provide and educate people with false information about Iranians and Kurdish identity, history and culture.

Consequently they are unskilled for any scientific discussion, but misuse their (corrupt) positions and there are always unscrupulous and idiot Kurds, like Mr. Hassan Qazi, to be used.

The Kurdish Studies Network is a network of Turkish Secret Service (MIT) and reproduced Nazi professors in which they adopt the Kurds to castrated characters and manipulate people who are interested in study of Kurdish.

In my reaction to the news (last page of the Reactions, below) –

International Conference THE ZAZA PEOPLE: HISTORY, LANGUAGE, CULTURE, IDENTITY – Yerevan, Armenia, 28-30 October 2011.

The Conference was organized by the International Journal (BRILL, Leiden-Boston) “Iran and the Caucasus” the Study of Iranian Ethnic Groups of the Region. In commemoration of the 155th anniversary of the great German-Armenian scholar, pioneer of the Zaza Studies, Academician FRIEDRICH CARL ANDREAS (BAGRATOUNI) (1846-1930), – I said:

I would like to recommend everyone interested in this issue to read Bible Discovered: Bible = Babel (Babylon) (pg. 29, 67, 73-5, 125-126, 232), before join the conference, since the culture and history thrust upon society about the Zázá people is inadequate and deceptive, based on Aryanization in the historical and cultural meanings. In the Bible Discovered: Bible = Babel (Babylon) I have substantiated it by archaeological ancient texts in regard to Zázáian people.

I call for a serious re-evaluation of what is being put out in academic works and to the public about ancient Near East.

Apparently, they were too sensitive for my latest post concerns The Conference by the International Journal (BRILL, Leiden-Boston), subsequently they removed directly my email from The Kurdish Studies Network ‎mailing list and excluded me from the network, without further notice.

The reactions:

Dear all,

Just in case some of you may be inclined to take this book seriously on its own terms, it may be useful to observe that Mr Berai’s earlier work, in which he set out to “prove” that Kurdish is not a member of the Iranian family of languages but is in fact rooted in the ancient language of Elam, Elamite, is perhaps interesting as a radical example of invented tradition, but is in violation of all existing scholarship as well as common sense. The few linguists with serious knowledge of Elamite told him how absurd his desire to find an Elamite origin for Kurdish is (because the languages are entirely unrelated), but this did not deter Mr Berai.

I have not seen this new book by Berai, but the title alone gives a good indication of his “scholarship.” Such works may be amusing for their word play, and may be of interest for a study of nationalist pseudo-science (comparable to the Turkish History Thesis and the Sun-Language Theory pushed by Turkish nationalists in the 1930s), but they should not be confused with real academic scholarship.

Best,

Martin van Bruinessen

Dear Martin,

I fully agree with you. We use similar essay in our university courses to give an idea to young students on how a tradition is invented in modern times (in the past, even recent past, the elaboration was a bit more complex.). Consider that Elamite belonging is highly evaluated even in Iran, because the Elamite civilization is believed to be ancestral to the Iranian land, while the Iranians themselves are believed to be rather recent newcomers. Similar publications are by now rather frequent in Iran, too. Yours Adriano

Prof. Dr Adriano V. Rossi Chair of Iranian Philology Dept of Asian Studies L’Orientale University, Naples (Italy)

 

Dear Professor Bruinessen and Roosi,

Thank you so much for your explanations.

Yes, he is one of the kind of the Turkish nationalists in the 1930s.

Best,

Hassan Ghazi

 

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On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Hamiit Qliji Berai <hqbe…@gmail.com>wrote: New scientific development, discovery of the Kurdish history, civilization and identity.

Bible Discovered: Bible = Babel (Babylon) By Hamiit Qliji Berai

Look inside “Bible Discovered” online available on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/dp/1466316187/ref=tsm_1_fb_lk

Bible (name of the patriarchal books) is derived from the Babel (Babylon), which means “fatherly, patriarchal”.

The contemporary adapted terms the ancient countries or languages and civilizations of the Elamite, Sumerian, Babylonian, Akkadian, Hittitian, Assyrian, Syriac, Hurrian, etc., cannot stand, that were Kurds and Kurdish languages recognizable in the present myriad Kurdish languages. And such civilizations never existed in such a manner….

www.elamirkan.net

 

From: kurdishstudiesnetwork@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Jowana <jowana@ualberta.ca> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 8:21 AM

I will purchase it tonight. Looking forward to reading your book!

Thank you!

 

On Oct 25, 8:43 am, Christine Allison <allison.christ…@gmail.com> wrote:

I hope the members of the Network will forgive me for wasting their time by stating the obvious, but the word ‘Bible’ comes from the Greek *biblion*, *biblos *which used to mean ‘scroll’ (because it is connected to the word for ‘papyrus’, the plant that scrolls were made of) but then came to mean ‘book’. The New Testament was written in Greek, in a dialect which was called *koine *or ‘common’, ‘shared’ because it was the common language of the Eastern Mediterranean, used for communication and business. This word also gives us words such as ‘bibliography’ and ‘bibliotheque’.

For those interested in language use in Late Antiquity David Taylor (University of Oxford) has a nice book chapter on when people used Greek and when Aramaic:

“Bilingualism and Diglossia in Late Antique Syria and Mesopotamia”, in Bilingualism in Ancient Society: Language Contact and the Written Word, ed. J.N. Adams, M. Janse, & S. Swain (OUP, 2002) 298-331.

Cheers everyone

Christine

 

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Hamiit Qliji Berai <hqbe…@gmail.com>wrote:

Dear Christine,

Yes, that is according the contemporary accepted etymologies for Bible and Papyrus.

But these words are more ancient than Greek. This Papyrus stands for the proper Pápyŕuš.

The word Babel (the adopted Babylon) stands instead of many other words, which are Kurdish words for father or fatherly, patriarchally. One of them is indeed Pápy-ŕuš means “in the manner of father, fatherly”. These subjects are discussed in Bible Discovered: Bible = Babel (Babylon) pg. 61-83.

Hamiit Qliji Berai

 

From: kurdishstudiesnetwork@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of ROJ ruwange Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 1:05 PM

Thanks Christine for your explanation. As you have stated: “reliance on spurious etymologies does a disservice to us all, and especially to the Kurdish people”.

Those who adamantly object the Kurdish distinct identity, insist the word “Kurd(t)” is derived from the sound of the feet on the snow in mountains, e,i Kar+Kurt , Kar means snow in Turkish.

So this sort of word mongering, as ‘Elamite(zing) Kurdish is more or less the same approach, although it may may be motivated by an opposite perception, but the outcome is the same, It should not be taken seriously!

Best,

Hassan Ghazi

 

2011/10/25 Güllistan Yarkın <gullistanyarkin@gmail.com>

Hi, this discussion has made me curious and I’ve looked at the Oxford dictionary. According to that the origin of the “bible”: Middle English: via Old French from ecclesiastical Latin biblia, from Greek (ta) biblia ‘(the) books’, from biblion ‘book’, originally a diminutive of biblos ‘papyrus, scroll’, of Semitic origin

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/Bible

 

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:19 AM, Christine Allison <allison.christine@gmail.com>wrote:

Indeed, biblion probably isnt originally a Greek word (like ‘woinos’, ‘wine’). It is likely to be from a local language. But that doesnt change the fact that the word ‘bible’ comes from the Greek. The New Testament was written in Greek. I refer readers back to the previous postings by Martin van Bruinessen, Adriano Rossi and Hassan Ghazi, and add that they may wish to compare this book with Joseph Yahuda’s famous ‘Hebrew is Greek’ or consult Geoffrey Lewis’ reputable scholarly book ‘The Turkish Language Reform: A Catastrophic Success’ especially the chapter about Sun Language theory.

I’m afraid I dont have time to contribute further on this strand; I have contributed this far because we (both Kurdish and not) are all working quite hard to establish strong scientific and disciplinary frameworks in Kurdish studies, and there are some brilliant Kurdish historians and linguists researching and publishing now. But reliance on spurious etymologies does a disservice to us all, and especially to the Kurdish people.

Christine

 

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 12:46 PM Hamiit Qliji Berai <hqbe…@gmail.com>wrote:

I see also no any reason to justify your assumption Christine, you cannot say “But that doesn’t change the fact that the word ‘bible’ comes from the Greek”. Which fact are you talking about it?

Hamiit

 

From: Welat Zeydanlioglu [mailto:welatzeydan@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:41 AM To: hqberai@gmail.com Subject: New scientific development, discovery of the Kurdish history, civilization and identity

Dear Mr Berai, You have sent a message to the Kurdish Studies Network in which you call another member of the network for a Nazi. This personal attack is not necessary nor acceptable. We try to not moderate the discussion on the network so that everyone can freely express their opinions. There is no tolerance for personal attacks nor the need for it, especially when we can have much-needed constructive debates instead. If this type of personal attacks are repeated your email will be removed from the network mailing list. with regards,

Welat Zeydanlioglu Kurdish Studies Network

From: hqberai@elamirkan.net To: welatzeydan@hotmail.com Subject: RE: New scientific development, discovery of the Kurdish history, civilization and identity Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:09:25 +0200

Mr. Zeydanioglu,

This is a very wrong decision by you; I cannot understand the reason behind that, except immorality. At least be a free man. My response to their brutality is a scientific documentation, not personal attack. It should be discussed openly.

The work they systematically continue is a crime, they are Nazis. Let everyone know that, especially the Kurds. You have no right to challenge my response to their personal attack.

Hamiit Qliji Berai

 

From: Welat Zeydanlioglu [mailto:welatzeydan@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 1:20 PM To: hqberai@elamirkan.net Subject: RE: New scientific development, discovery of the Kurdish history, civilization and identity

Dear Mr Berai, I have already explained to you that you do not have the right to call someone a Nazi. What is there to not understand? Kurdish Studies Network is a scientific network and the second message that you send to the network soon after joining contains a personal attack on another member. If this is repeated you will be excluded from the network. Best wishes, Welat Zeydanlioglu Kurdish Studies Network

 

From: kurdishstudiesnetwork@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of katharina.brizic@chello.at Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:26 PM To: kurdishstudiesnetwork@googlegroups.com Cc: Djene Bajalan

 

Dear Hamid Qliji Berai, dear all,

In comparison to most others in this network, I am a nobody in the field of Kurdish studies, although a very enthusiastic one; however – or maybe just because of this – I would like to openly say to Mr Hamid Qliji Berai: please stop this kind of discourse. Please accept in an interpersonally as well as academically appropriate manner that there is criticism on your work (as we all have to face criticism during all our research enterprises). It does not change things even in the least if persons are attacked by you in such a way; quite the contrary: it makes an outsider like me even more sure that you must be wrong, given the fact that your argumentation (see the links you contributed) seems to build on personal affront rather than scientific answers.

Remembering one of Welat’s earlier emails, and if I am not mistaken, this network has been established to make our work less “lonesome”, less secluded, by providing a platform where discussion is possible in a way quite different from everyday life (with its often very cruel, very banal face). Please let us stick to this initial intention. Let the network be and remain a platform based on mutual appreciation and respect.

Yours

Katharina

Austrian Academy of Sciences

Wohllebengasse 12-14, 1040 Vienna, Austria

Phone: 0043 – 664 – 32 68 008

Katharina.Brizic@oeaw.ac.at

Djene Bajalan <djene.bajalan@sant.ox.ac.uk> schrieb: This is amazing…

I would ask Mr. Hamiit Qliji Berai how and in what way this elamirkan institute was prevented from conducting its work? After all, his book was published. Mr Berai seems to be a Kurdish version of the Turk Tarih Kurumu! Moreover, how did these professors contribute to the genocide of the Kurdish people? I mean if these professors really did deny the existence of the Kurdish people, they would be discouraging genocide as they would be claiming that the Kurds were part of the Turkish/Arab/Persian nation – People are generally suffer genocide because they are unwilling or unable to assimilate into the dominant nationality (think of the Jews or Armenians).

This application to the ECHR is an embarrassment to Kurds – since it attaches a petty academic grievance (which in fact makes no sense anyhow) to the far more important issue of Dutch companies being involved in selling poisonous gas to Iraq.

 

From: kurdishstudiesnetwork@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Michael CHYET Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:56 PM Subject: {Kurdish Studies Network} Fwd: [ISIS] PROGRAMME and ABSTRACTS – THE ZAZA PEOPLE: HISTORY, LANGUAGE, CULTURE, IDENTITY – Yerevan, Armenia, 28-30 October, 2011

 

Dear friends- Has this already been posted? Apologies for cross-postings. Best, MLChyet

Dear Colleagues,

In the Framework of the Celebration of its 15-th Anniversary, the International Journal Iran and the Caucasus (BRILL, Leiden-Boston) is organising a Conference “The Zaza People: Language, Culture, Identity”.

Please find the Programme as well as the Abstracts of the papers attached or follow the following links for the online versions.

The conference is open to the public.

PROGRAMME

http://www.armacad.info/conferences/the-zaza-people-language-culture-identity-28-30-oct-2011-yerevan-armenia/programme

ABSTRACTS

http://www.armacad.info/conferences/the-zaza-people-language-culture-identity-28-30-oct-2011-yerevan-armenia/abstracts

Sincerely yours, Khachik Gevorgyan

 

From: kurdishstudiesnetwork@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Hamiit Qliji Berai

Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 9:46 AM I understood, there is an International Conference THE ZAZA PEOPLE: HISTORY, LANGUAGE, CULTURE, IDENTITY – Yerevan, Armenia, 28-30 October, 2011 The Conference is organized by the International Journal (BRILL, Leiden-Boston) “Iran and the Caucasus” the Study of Iranian Ethnic Groups of the Region. In commemoration of the 155th anniversary of the great German-Armenian scholar, pioneer of the Zaza Studies, Academician FRIEDRICH CARL ANDREAS (BAGRATOUNI) (1846-1930)

I would like to recommend everyone interested in this issue to read Bible Discovered: Bible = Babel (Babylon) (pg. 29, 67, 73-5, 125-126, 232), before join the conference, since the culture and history thrust upon society about the Zázá people is inadequate and deceptive, based on Aryanization in the historical and cultural meanings.

In the Bible Discovered: Bible = Babel (Babylon) I have substantiated it by archaeological ancient texts in regard to Zázáian people.

I call for a serious re-evaluation of what is being put out in academic works and to the public about ancient Near East.

There is also a press release online: http://www.elamirkan.net/?p=511

 

Hamiit Qliji Berai

www.elamirkan.net

 

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December 26, 2012,

Hamíit Qliji Bérai

 

Your “Káka” is still sold for a huge sum!

The invaders came from somewhere else, the Persians from India, Arabs from Saudi Arabia, and Turks from western China. With the rise of Islam they have conquered the land of the Kurds and occupied it after each other and entirely destroyed the Kurdish civilization and since then it is still forbidden, a continuous civilization of millions years old up to the rise of Islam. the Muslims put an end to the sovereignty of Kurdish civilization.

When the Western Imperialism have taken power over the Islamic world, excavated parallel with the oilfields, the buried preserved remains of that civilization, and falsely named it “the Civilization of Extinct Nations” and or “the Iranian (Persian), Arabic and Turks Languages and Cultures”. Constantly they manipulate and sell the Kurdish heritage in their trade centers as inexhaustible sources. 

But still there are many of the Kurds alive, although stunned; when you would tell the Kurds that the most common and well-known idiom among them “Káka” is still sold for a huge amount, they will not understand you, despite explanations that the today well-known “Ká, Kák, Káka, Káká, Káki, Kákaei, Gá, Gaga”  have been manipulated, showed as Babylon and sold, the Kurds will do not understand you and yet remain senseless. What a shame!

November 5, 2012, The Hague

Hamíit Qliji Bérai

Persepolis (Parsa or Takht-e Jamshid), Naqsh-e Rostam, Pasargad(-ae), Tele Bakum are falsely invented names

The periodical terms to specify the development of the human culture in Near East are less precise.

It is convenient to call the various phases after the name of the sites that first represented best its old civilization. The well-known Kurdu, Jamdat Nasr, Uruk, Uruk-Warka, Xalaf (Halaf), Ubaid, Eridu, Ur, Susa I, Susa II (Acropolis) or Susa of Elam and Uruk of Sumer etc. are corrupt names and not real periods, but adopted and used in widely different applications. Susa “the Šuš” itself is the real site name of an archaeological site.

The now well-known sites Persepolis (Parsa or Takht-e Jamshid), Naqsh-e Rostam, Pasargad(-ae), Tele Bakum are falsely invented names by the scholars from western universities for the ruins which are obviously specified as Elamite sites.

Herzfeld says: in 1928, I started excavations at a place discovered in 1923, only about two miles from the terrace of Persepolis, an insignificant oval mound covering about 750 to 1000 feet, of no greater elevation than twelve feet. It had no name, and it is enough to call it Persepolis. (Note 8) At a legal contest concerning the ownership, it was ascertained that the mound had no name. Tol e Bakum, the name recently given it by the Persepolis expedition, must be a newly created one. (Tol should be tel “mound”), see Bible is Babel (Babylon), Bible Discovered 2nd Edition.

 

Hamiit Qliji Berai, The Hague, Oct 10, 2012